cr*p. Think this is me again. After another 30 minutes of debugging, found /dev/v4l/video0 unusable by mythtv. Highly unusual as I've always used it in the past. Guess what? Just upgraded the kernel and probably need a reboot. :-/ The beer made me file this one. ;-) # cat beer.png >> /dev/mouth -- Roger http://www.eskimo.com/~roger/index.html